Camila Cabello is opening up about why she doesn’t say Shawn Mendes‘ name when she talks about him.

The 22-year-old songstress recently had a performance for Apple Music and when describing a relationship from one of her new songs, she tip toed around the name of the guy, aka her 21-year-old boyfriend.

“I guess I was avoiding it, yeah,” she told the Sun Sentinal. “I mean, I don’t call him Shawn Mendes, you know? I call him pet names that I’m not gonna say in this interview.” She laughed. “But I feel like when I say his name, it’s just contributing to the pop-culture circus.”

“As soon as I do it, I can hear the screams,” Camila continued. “And I’m like, ‘No, no, no, you’re not hearing what I’m trying to say.’ I’m not talking about it as some Twitter thing.”

“That’s my boyfriend. This is real.”

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